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		<title>By: Groep 3: (Wanneer) zinvol om een eigen netwerk te bouwen? &#171; Munk</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-85654</link>
		<dc:creator>Groep 3: (Wanneer) zinvol om een eigen netwerk te bouwen? &#171; Munk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-20667</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New political website is about to be lunched soon: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.presidentoftheworld.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.presidentoftheworld.com&lt;/a&gt; – &lt;br&gt;I just registered to the actual Beta version.&lt;br&gt;It has a &#039;Fun Touch&#039; that others do not have and potentially could be as successful as a ‘generic’ Social Network since it combines all functionalities that a generic Social Network has but a Register person become a ‘Resident of the World’, and according to my understanding, could elected and become a Deputy then Super Deputy. Plus, the must of the must, a ‘Resident’ can be elected ‘President Of The World’.&lt;br&gt;Heum.. that sounds good. Who did not ever dream becoming the President Of The World!!?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.Presidentoftheworld.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.Presidentoftheworld.com&lt;/a&gt; - a political Website to be monitored very closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New political website is about to be lunched soon: <a href="http://www.presidentoftheworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.presidentoftheworld.com</a> – <br />I just registered to the actual Beta version.<br />It has a &#39;Fun Touch&#39; that others do not have and potentially could be as successful as a ‘generic’ Social Network since it combines all functionalities that a generic Social Network has but a Register person become a ‘Resident of the World’, and according to my understanding, could elected and become a Deputy then Super Deputy. Plus, the must of the must, a ‘Resident’ can be elected ‘President Of The World’.<br />Heum.. that sounds good. Who did not ever dream becoming the President Of The World!!?<br /><a href="http://www.Presidentoftheworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Presidentoftheworld.com</a> &#8211; a political Website to be monitored very closely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben B</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-7926</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know of any existing site that has a social framework (like MyBO) for grassroots groups to create and manage multiple local campaigns?   I would love to have something similar to MyBO to continue organizing on a local level.  Any thoughts?  I have looked at &lt;a href=&quot;http://ning.com&quot;&gt;ning.com&lt;/a&gt;, but it doesn&#039;t have the ability to create &#039;campaigns&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://yourowndemocracy.org&quot;&gt;yourowndemocracy.org&lt;/a&gt; looks great if it takes off: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/33229/yourowndemocracy_org_democracy_s_online_feedback_loop&quot;&gt;http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/33229/y...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the great work!&lt;br&gt;-Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know of any existing site that has a social framework (like MyBO) for grassroots groups to create and manage multiple local campaigns?   I would love to have something similar to MyBO to continue organizing on a local level.  Any thoughts?  I have looked at <a href="http://ning.com">ning.com</a>, but it doesn&#39;t have the ability to create &#39;campaigns&#39;.</p>
<p>Also, <a href="http://yourowndemocracy.org">yourowndemocracy.org</a> looks great if it takes off: <a href="http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/33229/yourowndemocracy_org_democracy_s_online_feedback_loop"></a><a href="http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/33229/y.." rel="nofollow">http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/33229/y..</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great work!<br />-Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bondelli</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5573</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bondelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually we both got confused here. I wasn&#039;t quoting. The Arizona Democratic Party example was coming from me. What I meant was that I did not actually create the social network. It was a part of the tools we purchased from BSD. That&#039;s where the confusion was.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are other social networks that haven&#039;t really been effective either. Nobody uses &lt;a href=&quot;http://think.mtv.com&quot;&gt;think.mtv.com&lt;/a&gt;, which was supposed to be the hip new network for socially-minded young people. When I see some examples of successful campaign social networks other than myBO maybe I&#039;ll be convinced otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually we both got confused here. I wasn&#39;t quoting. The Arizona Democratic Party example was coming from me. What I meant was that I did not actually create the social network. It was a part of the tools we purchased from BSD. That&#39;s where the confusion was.</p>
<p>There are other social networks that haven&#39;t really been effective either. Nobody uses <a href="http://think.mtv.com">think.mtv.com</a>, which was supposed to be the hip new network for socially-minded young people. When I see some examples of successful campaign social networks other than myBO maybe I&#39;ll be convinced otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bondelli</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5568</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bondelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, and myBO has been pretty effective with it, but like I said, it&#039;s the most well-funded campaign in the history of politics. I think that myBO has actually been very successful and was a good investment, but I think that the advantages of the Obama campaign allowed it to be successful, and advantages that other campaigns and organizations just don&#039;t have.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should a state legislature race build it&#039;s own social network? Congressional? Maybe we will get to the point where it becomes cost effective for campaigns, but we aren&#039;t there yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it&#039;s true that external tools never work 100% as needed, but then again, internal tools never work 100% as needed either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s true, and myBO has been pretty effective with it, but like I said, it&#39;s the most well-funded campaign in the history of politics. I think that myBO has actually been very successful and was a good investment, but I think that the advantages of the Obama campaign allowed it to be successful, and advantages that other campaigns and organizations just don&#39;t have.</p>
<p>Should a state legislature race build it&#39;s own social network? Congressional? Maybe we will get to the point where it becomes cost effective for campaigns, but we aren&#39;t there yet.</p>
<p>And it&#39;s true that external tools never work 100% as needed, but then again, internal tools never work 100% as needed either.</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi Montanez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi Montanez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I disagree here because there&#039;s a fundamental difference between social networks (like Facebook, MySpace, etc) and social *activism* networks like MyBO. And there&#039;s also a fundamental difference for the purposes they serve.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re completely right that a campaign should get on MySpace, Facebook, etc because it allows them to do outreach on potential supporters who they normally couldn&#039;t have gotten to. Going to where the people are instead of expecting them to come to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But when it comes to winning a campaign, there needs to be a system to get people organized: training volunteers, organizing house parties, canvassing neighborhoods to identify support, conducting voter registration drives, and finally executing GOTV. That&#039;s where the tools of an activism network like MyBO really come into play. That simply can&#039;t be done as effectively as piggybacking off MySpace or Facebook. External tools will never work 100% as needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I disagree here because there&#39;s a fundamental difference between social networks (like Facebook, MySpace, etc) and social *activism* networks like MyBO. And there&#39;s also a fundamental difference for the purposes they serve.</p>
<p>You&#39;re completely right that a campaign should get on MySpace, Facebook, etc because it allows them to do outreach on potential supporters who they normally couldn&#39;t have gotten to. Going to where the people are instead of expecting them to come to you.</p>
<p>But when it comes to winning a campaign, there needs to be a system to get people organized: training volunteers, organizing house parties, canvassing neighborhoods to identify support, conducting voter registration drives, and finally executing GOTV. That&#39;s where the tools of an activism network like MyBO really come into play. That simply can&#39;t be done as effectively as piggybacking off MySpace or Facebook. External tools will never work 100% as needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Biographer</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5572</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Biographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spotted the parody, (and nice photoshopping) but this is what I must have misread: - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;At the Arizona Democratic Party, we had the BlueStateDigital social networking component that both the DNC and the Obama campaign use. Tony Cani was the first person to try to get it to take off, I was the second. No matter how much I tried to get our supporters on to our social network to use those tools, it just wouldn’t happen. I would have to go to Facebook and MySpace instead.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought you were quoting someone else there. OK. So maybe we use quotation marks in a different way over in the UK when we report someone else&#039;s words. ;-) &quot;My mistake.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point remains Kevin, that tiny or vast social networks are actually quite easy to set up and maintain with the right people (and it can be a 1-man team) in place to run them - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://ning.com&quot;&gt;ning.com&lt;/a&gt; for the free toolkit. When defining what is &#039;worthwhile&#039; usually only comes once every four years or so for voters, I think it&#039;s a really pertinent metric when you consider, for example, how many votes made the difference in Florida for the Gore vs. Bush presidential campaign. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Politics is the art of the possible, but online, you really ain&#039;t seen nothing yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spotted the parody, (and nice photoshopping) but this is what I must have misread: &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;At the Arizona Democratic Party, we had the BlueStateDigital social networking component that both the DNC and the Obama campaign use. Tony Cani was the first person to try to get it to take off, I was the second. No matter how much I tried to get our supporters on to our social network to use those tools, it just wouldn’t happen. I would have to go to Facebook and MySpace instead.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought you were quoting someone else there. OK. So maybe we use quotation marks in a different way over in the UK when we report someone else&#39;s words. <img src='http://www.kevinbondelli.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;My mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point remains Kevin, that tiny or vast social networks are actually quite easy to set up and maintain with the right people (and it can be a 1-man team) in place to run them &#8211; see <a href="http://ning.com">ning.com</a> for the free toolkit. When defining what is &#39;worthwhile&#39; usually only comes once every four years or so for voters, I think it&#39;s a really pertinent metric when you consider, for example, how many votes made the difference in Florida for the Gore vs. Bush presidential campaign. </p>
<p>Politics is the art of the possible, but online, you really ain&#39;t seen nothing yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bondelli</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5571</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bondelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;just because your network did not interest them, it&#039;s no reason to draw the conclusion that nobody else should bother.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually haven&#039;t created a social network. The picture at the top is a photoshopped parody of &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.barackobama.com&quot;&gt;my.barackobama.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is the point. In the political world, you have a finite amount of resources and more importantly time. The amount of both it would take to create a social network, get enough users on it for it to be worthwhile, and continue to maintain it would be overwhelming. In political organizing you should go where the people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just because your network did not interest them, it&#39;s no reason to draw the conclusion that nobody else should bother.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually haven&#39;t created a social network. The picture at the top is a photoshopped parody of <a href="http://my.barackobama.com">my.barackobama.com</a>.</p>
<p>Here is the point. In the political world, you have a finite amount of resources and more importantly time. The amount of both it would take to create a social network, get enough users on it for it to be worthwhile, and continue to maintain it would be overwhelming. In political organizing you should go where the people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Spleenie</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5569</link>
		<dc:creator>Spleenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on social networks - game over.  However, there is value in building vertical professional networks with the goal being to offer content around career advancement and training, as well as, new employment opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on social networks &#8211; game over.  However, there is value in building vertical professional networks with the goal being to offer content around career advancement and training, as well as, new employment opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Biographer</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinbondelli.com/2008/07/24/no-you-shouldnt-create-your-own-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-5570</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Biographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need focus, content, relevance in any social network, be it a niche interest or generic network. People will join things that interest them - just because your network did not interest them, it&#039;s no reason to draw the conclusion that nobody else should bother.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the key to a successful network is having talented community managers and individuals who act as catalysts and influencers within the network, and working to expand the network. Sure, you have to go where the people are, but you can also create a place where the people want to go - and the smart way is to create groups and causes within those places - the technology is already there to use, and it&#039;s mostly free.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like most political organisations, you need to get good, passionate people in there. The difference with an online network is that you have to let non-politicians drive the agenda, ad let the politicians shut up for once and just listen. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the part nobody has worked out - well, except perhaps Obama - he uses the fact that he has two ears and one mouth in correct proportion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need focus, content, relevance in any social network, be it a niche interest or generic network. People will join things that interest them &#8211; just because your network did not interest them, it&#39;s no reason to draw the conclusion that nobody else should bother.</p>
<p>I think the key to a successful network is having talented community managers and individuals who act as catalysts and influencers within the network, and working to expand the network. Sure, you have to go where the people are, but you can also create a place where the people want to go &#8211; and the smart way is to create groups and causes within those places &#8211; the technology is already there to use, and it&#39;s mostly free.</p>
<p>Like most political organisations, you need to get good, passionate people in there. The difference with an online network is that you have to let non-politicians drive the agenda, ad let the politicians shut up for once and just listen. </p>
<p>That&#39;s the part nobody has worked out &#8211; well, except perhaps Obama &#8211; he uses the fact that he has two ears and one mouth in correct proportion.</p>
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